Comments on: Christ in the Old Testament http://calvindude.com/dude/2006/07/28/christ-in-the-old-testament/ The Theological and Philosophical Musings of CalvinDude Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:49:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: sdanielmorgan http://calvindude.com/dude/2006/07/28/christ-in-the-old-testament/comment-page-1/#comment-120 sdanielmorgan Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:01:01 +0000 http://calvindude.com/dude/blog/2006/07/christ-in-the-old-testament/#comment-120 I think the strongest responses to the assertion that Jesus is in the OT is to look at the Jews and what they say about these various Scriptures, both before and after the rise of Christianity (so that one cannot claim they "changed their tune" post de facto): http://www.messiahtruth.com/targum.html http://www.messiahtruth.com/haftorah.html http://www.messiahtruth.com/is714a.html http://www.messiahtruth.com/deut18.html http://www.messiahtruth.com/zech12.html http://www.messiahtruth.com/isa9o.html There are other good articles on the site. In general, I can see their point rather clearly -- all (or nearly so) of the "propecies" concerning Jesus are clearly overwhelmed by the straightforward descriptions of the Messiah given: http://www.messiahtruth.com/details.html I can see why the Jews are still Jews. Erase the entire NT from your head, put yourself in their shoes back then, and assume that the events in the gospels are accurate in what they say, only in those things that happen around the Jews (ie not the explanation to just the disciples "in private", not the post-resurrection appearances, which did not include the Jews, etc). Would you have forsaken the Torah to believe this new prophet? I think the strongest responses to the assertion that Jesus is in the OT is to look at the Jews and what they say about these various Scriptures, both before and after the rise of Christianity (so that one cannot claim they “changed their tune” post de facto):
http://www.messiahtruth.com/targum.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/haftorah.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/is714a.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/deut18.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/zech12.html
http://www.messiahtruth.com/isa9o.html

There are other good articles on the site. In general, I can see their point rather clearly — all (or nearly so) of the “propecies” concerning Jesus are clearly overwhelmed by the straightforward descriptions of the Messiah given:

http://www.messiahtruth.com/details.html

I can see why the Jews are still Jews. Erase the entire NT from your head, put yourself in their shoes back then, and assume that the events in the gospels are accurate in what they say, only in those things that happen around the Jews (ie not the explanation to just the disciples “in private”, not the post-resurrection appearances, which did not include the Jews, etc).

Would you have forsaken the Torah to believe this new prophet?

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